Remarks at a White House Coronavirus Task Force Press Briefing

The President. Thank you very much, everyone. Thank you. Progress being made. And I appreciate your all joining us.

Last night the FDA announced groundbreaking new policies to further increase testing, very substantially so. All States can now authorize tests developed and used within their borders, in addition to the FDA. So the States are very much involved. They have been involved from the beginning. But we're stepping it up as much as we can, and the testing procedures are going well.

And within a short period of time, all other private labs will kick in. This has never been done before, and it's going to be something very—I think it's going to be incredible if it's done properly. And these are great companies. These are among the greatest companies in the world, actually. So the States are going to be dealing through themselves and with local government, local physicians, local everybody. They're also dealing with us. But we have a tremendous testing capacity.

Today we're also announcing a dramatic expansion of our Medicare telehealth services.

Medicare patients can now visit any doctor by phone or video conference at no additional cost, including with commonly used services like FaceTime and Skype, a historic breakthrough. This has not been done before either. In addition, States have the authority to cover telehealth services for their medical patients. And by doing this, the patient is not seeing the doctor, per se, but they're seeing the doctor. So there's no getting close.

During this time, we will not enforce applicable HIPAA penalties so that doctors can greatly expand care for their patients using telehealth. So the penalties won't be enforced. We encourage everyone to maximize use of telehealth to limit exposure to the virus. It's been a very successful method of communication, but never used on a scale like we're going to use on telehealth. And you'll be able to also better maintain hospital capacity by doing this.

Earlier this morning I spoke with executives from America's fast-food industry—Wendy's, McDonald's, all of the big ones, Burger King—and they were great. We're talking about the pickups in light of yesterday's guidance, you heard, to avoid eating or drinking at bars, restaurants, or public food courts. We discussed the important role that the drive-through, pickup, and delivery service can play in the weeks ahead.

So that's happening, and they have been fantastic. They have been absolutely fantastic. And they've been doing it already. But they're keeping it open and smaller staffs. They're very capable people and very capable companies, and they're doing it, pickups.

Our guidance yesterday urges Americans to take action for 15 days to help stem the outbreak. So it's a 15-day period. I guess, now I would say it's a 14-day period. It was 15 days from yesterday, and we're asking everyone to work at home, if possible, postpone unnecessary travel, and limit social gatherings to no more than 10 people. By making shared sacrifices and temporary changes, we can protect the health of our people, and we can protect our economy, because I think our economy will come back very rapidly. So it's 15 days from yesterday. We'll see what happens after that. If we do this right, our country—and the world, frankly—but our country can be rolling again pretty quickly. Pretty quickly.

We have to fight that invisible enemy that, I guess, unknown, but we're getting to know it a lot better.

Today the Senate is taking up coronavirus legislation that includes free testing for those who need it, as well as paid sick leave and family medical leave for workers affected by the virus.

We're also committed to getting small businesses the support that they need. In fact, one of the things we talked about with the fast food operations—we spoke to the chairmen and CEOs of all of the companies—but one of the things we discussed is exactly that: getting small businesses support and flexibility that they need for themselves and for their workers, and that's being worked on right now.

At my direction, Secretary Mnuchin is meeting today with Senators on additional stimulus packages. I can tell you he was meeting with them late until the night last night and for a big part of the day yesterday, and tremendous things are happening. There's great spirit. Tremendous spirit. And I can say that for Republicans and Democrats.

I can say that, with respect to Governor Cuomo, we had a great talk this morning. We're both doing a really good job, and we're coordinating it. And we agree—you know, different States need different things. And we agree on that a hundred percent. But we had a very good talk, and I think we're right down the same track, and it's going to be very successful. New York has a pretty big problem. I guess, would be the number one hotspot. It's no fault of anybody. It's just the way it is.

But we're working very closely together. We're also getting FEMA very much involved.

They've been involved, but now we're getting them to a different level, and we'll have everything ready. We're dealing with the Army Corps of Engineers, should that be necessary. We have them working, in some cases; on standby, in other cases. But my conversation with Andrew Cuomo was a very, very productive one and a very good one. And I appreciate that.

We're giving relief to affected industries and small businesses, and we're ensuring that we emerge from this challenge with a prosperous and growing economy, because that's what's going to happen. It's going to pop. One day, we'll be standing, possibly up here, and we'll say, "Well, we won." And we're going to say that. As sure as you're sitting there, we're going to say that. And we're going to win, and I think we're going to win faster than people think, I hope.

Later today I'll meet with the leaders from the tourism industry, as well as industrial supply retailers and wholesalers, to discuss their critical roles. As you know, I met with the department store people, all of the retailers—the big ones, including Walmart and others—and it was a great meeting. They're stocking up their stores like they've never stocked them before. We're trying to get people to actually buy less if that's possible. Buy less. Don't take everything. Just buy what you need for a while. It's—they're going to stay open all hours of the day. And they've really been—they've been fantastic.

We're taking aggressive action now as one Nation and one family so that America can rebound stronger, frankly, stronger than ever before. And we recognize that while many American workers can work from home, many others cannot. Many of our health care providers, first responders, and men and women in the food service and manufacturing are showing at— they're showing up and standing up to provide us with the goods and services we need.

So we want people to stay home where they can, but in many cases, when you talk about food service and manufacturing, certain items in particular, they're going in, and they're practicing all of the safety rules and regulations that we talk about.

So with that, I'd like to just introduce our great Vice President, Mike Pence. He'll say a few words, and then I'll make some other introductions.

Thank you very much.

Vice President Michael R. Pence. Thank you, Mr. President, and good morning. It should be very clear to the American people that President Trump has initiated not only a whole-of- Government approach, but a whole-of-America approach. And the President's interaction, even today and through the course of this day, with leaders in industry around the country, reflects that we're not only bringing the full weight of the Federal Government to bear, but the full weight of the American economy.

[Vice President Pence continued his remarks, concluding as follows.]

At the President's direction, we will continue to do whatever it takes. We'll continue to marshal the best of the American people, the best of all the people behind me, the people behind them, our State and local officials. And we will get through this, and we will get through this together.

Thank you, Mr. President.

The President. Thank you, Mike, very much. Thank you.

Q. Mr. President——

The President. I want to thank Chad Wolf and Homeland Security. The job they did at the airports was really incredible. They screened thousands and thousands of people. O'Hare got backed up, but—a little bit, but they got them out. But everybody was screened and screened very carefully. They didn't want to rush it. I think it was 13 airports. And it was an incredible thing.

Then they had a big surge also from the U.K. and Ireland, and that went very smoothly. But they did a fantastic job. They worked long hours, and they did a fantastic job.

I'd like to introduce Steve Mnuchin, and then I'm going to ask Steve to leave because he's going to the Hill. He's been working very hard with the Senate and with—actually, with the House on a very, very big, bold package. It's going to be big, and it's going to be bold. And the level, again, of enthusiasm to get something done, I don't think I've ever seen anything quite like it.

So, Steve Mnuchin, please.

Secretary of the Treasury Steven T. Mnuchin. Thank you, Mr. President. I'd like to announce some very significant actions that the President has approved today. The first, I would say, is: Earlier today I sent a letter to Fed Chairman Powell approving his request to use 13(3). And what that will do is, the Fed will be setting up a special purpose vehicle, which the Treasury will invest $10 billion in from one of our funds. That will enable the Fed to guarantee the purchase of A1/P1 commercial paper going forward. That is a $1 trillion market, and it is critical to American workers, it's critical to American business, and it's critical to American savers who have a lot of that money in money market funds.

[Secretary Mnuchin continued his remarks, concluding as follows.]

We look forward to having bipartisan support. We're now working with the Senate to pass this legislation very quickly. And these will be payments to small businesses. We've talked about loan guarantees to critical industries such as airlines and hotels. And we've also talked about a stimulus package to the American worker. You can think of this as something like business interruption payments for the American workers.

Thank you.

The President. Do you have any questions for the Secretary of the Treasury?

Q. Mr. Secretary——

Q. When you say a stimulus package for American workers, do you mean direct payments to Americans, or are you talking about a payroll tax holiday?

Secretary Mnuchin. Although the President likes the idea of the payroll tax holiday, I will tell you, what we've heard from many people—and the President has said we can consider this— the payroll tax holiday would get people money over the next 6 to 8 months. We're looking at sending checks to Americans immediately. And what we've heard from hard-working Americans, many companies have now shut down, whether it's bars or restaurants. Americans need cash now, and the President wants to get cash now. And I mean now, in the next 2 weeks.

Q. How much?

Secretary Mnuchin. I will be previewing that with the Republicans. There's some numbers out there. They may be a little bit bigger than what's in the press.

The President. Go ahead. Please.

Q. Mr. Secretary——

The President. Please. Wait. Please.

Federal Support for Airline Companies

Q. Secretary Mnuchin, what help are you going to give to airlines, specifically?

Secretary Mnuchin. We—I've had discussions with all the airline CEOs this week. The airline CEOs have had conversations with the Senate and the House. As the President said, I was up with a subset of the Republican Senators last night. I've discussed that with them.

I think, as you know, this is worse than 9/11. For the airline industry, this is—they are almost ground to a halt. The President wants to make sure that although we don't want people to travel unless it's critical, we want to maintain for critical travel the right to have domestic travel.

Q. They want $60 billion dollars. Is that enough, or——

Secretary Mnuchin. I'm not going to comment on the specifics. I will tell you, we're very focused. There's a lot of workers. This is strategically important to us, and we'll be working with Congress on this.

Q. Mr. Secretary, Mr. Secretary——

The President. The airline industry will be in good shape. Yes. Go ahead, please.

Economic Stimulus Legislation

Q. There's been talk about a-thousand-dollar checks to every American. Increasing support among Republicans and some Democrats for that. Would you support that going to everyone? Or would you support some sort of income restriction on who gets a check?

Secretary Mnuchin. Well, I think it's clear: We don't need to send people who make a million dollars a year checks. Okay? But we like—that's one of the ideas we like. We're going to preview that today, and then we'll be talking about details afterwards.

The President. Well, I think we're going to do something that gets money to them as quickly as possible. That may not be an accurate way of doing it, because obviously, some people shouldn't be getting checks for a thousand dollars. And we'll have a pretty good idea by the end of the day, what we're going to be doing.

Q. Mr. Secretary, Mr. Secretary, you've been working——

The President. Yes, John [John Roberts, Fox News], please.

Economic Stimulus Legislation

Q. Can you tell—how would the mechanics of this work? I mean, we've been talking about a payroll tax holiday. Some $500 billion worth was floated to me today. So how would this idea of sending people a check work? Would you—would that be sort of advance on what they would pay in payroll taxes? How would it work?

Secretary Mnuchin. Again, we want to make sure Americans get money in their pockets quickly. We want to make sure small-business owners have access to funds; we want to make sure that hotels, airlines. We have an entire package. We'll be laying out those details later today.

The President. Yes, I have to say this: There are four different ways you can do it——

Q. [Inaudible]

The President. That's okay. Four—you can hear me well enough, I imagine. Sorry.

Q. I can, but it's the people at home.

The President. Okay. Oh, the people at home, you're right. [Laughter] Those are very important people, come to think of it.

Q. More important than us.

The President. Especially your people.

Look, we have four or five ways we can do it, four ways in particular. I think there's a fifth possibility. But there are some very good ways of getting the money out and getting it out quickly. A payroll tax is one way, but it does come over a period of months, many months, and we want to do something much faster than that. So I think we have ways of getting money out pretty quickly and very accurately. Okay?

Economic Stimulus Legislation

Q. Mr. Secretary——

Secretary Mnuchin. Yes.

Q. ——can you talk about the timeline, please? How quickly do you think you can get this done while there is broad bipartisan support?

Secretary Mnuchin. The President has instructed me we have to do this now. So this is now.

We——

Q. By the end of the week?

Secretary Mnuchin. Oh, we are going to work with the Senate, who's in session right now, actively. We will continue to have conversations with the House. I've already spoken to Speaker Pelosi once today. This is stuff that needs to be done now.

The President has instructed me that this is no fault to American workers. For medical reasons, we are shutting down parts of this economy, and we're going to use all the tools we have, as I've said. And what tools we don't have, we're going back to Congress.

Q. And we've seen the price tag as high——

Secretary Mnuchin. I've got to go back to——

Q. ——as $850 billion. To those who might be concerned that's too expensive?

The President. We don't want to talk about it, but it's a substantial number. We're going big. The expression—we could do it two ways; we could keep going back every day or every week. We're going big. And that's where Mitch McConnell—that's the way he wants to go. That's the way I want to go. I think we want to get it done and have a big infusion as opposed to going through little meetings every—every couple of days. We don't want to do it that way. We want to go big, go solid.

The country is very strong. We've never been so strong. And that's what we're going to be doing. We don't want—with this invisible enemy, we don't want airlines going out of business. We don't want people losing their jobs or not having money to live, when they were doing very well just 4 weeks ago.

So we're going big, and that's the way it will be. And that's the way everybody seems to like it on the Hill.

Any other question for Steve?

Q. Mr. Secretary, in addition to airlines and hotels, you had a call with restaurants today. Was any type of emergency assistance discussed on that call? A lot restaurants have to close. Even, if they are doing delivery, they're not making as much money as they would with a full house.

Secretary Mnuchin. Well, let me make two comments on the restaurants. And the President understands this; this was emphasized this morning.

[Secretary Mnuchin continued his remarks, concluding as follows.]

So we expect that they will be able to feed a large part of the population. And in regards to support, I will say a lot of these businesses are small businesses—are companies, franchisees, 500 or less—and we have a specific program we'll be unveiling that helps all businesses—small and medium-sized businesses of 500 and less.

Q. Mr. Secretary, a real quick question regarding Marriott Corporation. It announced that it is furloughing thousands of individuals because of the impacts of the coronavirus. Will your legislation help those individuals?

Secretary Mnuchin. I hope so. That's one of the reasons why we've got to act very quickly, because we understand whether it's the airlines, hotels, for good reasons to protect the United States on medical issues, these businesses are shut down. And the President wants to make sure, as I've said, we will use all the powers we have. You saw this today: trillion dollars of potential liquidity into the market. And the powers we don't have, we're going to Congress. And I will say there's a lot of bipartisan support for these issues.

So I'm going to apologize, because I have to go deal with some other things, if that's okay, Mr. President.

Financial Markets

Q. Will you consider shutting down the stock market?

The President. Thanks, Steve.

Secretary Mnuchin. Oh, yes, I—this——

The President. Go ahead.

Secretary Mnuchin. I do want to comment on this. Okay? We absolutely believe in keeping the markets open. Okay? Americans need to know they have access to their money. After September 11, the only reason why the markets were closed was because the technology was disrupted. I've been on the phone with the major banks, with the New York Stock Exchange. Everybody wants to keep it open. We may get to a point where we shorten the hours, if that's something they need to do.

But Americans should know that we are going to do everything to make sure that they have access to their money at their banks, to the money in their 401(k)s, and to the money in stocks. So I want to just be very clear, we intend to keep the markets open.

The President. And the banks are record-setting strong. So we have that, which is a much different event than what we had not so long ago.

Q. Can we ask you some questions, Mr. President?

The President. John, go ahead, please.

Federal Coronavirus Response/Health Care Infrastructure

Q. Mr. President, you mentioned the Army Corps of Engineers——

The President. Right.

Q. ——and that you've had a conversation with Governor Cuomo.

The President. Right.

Q. He believes that New York is going to run out of hospital beds. Are you prepared to mobilize the Army Corps——

The President. Well, we've been asked to, and we're——

Q. ——to increase capacity?

The President. Yes, we're starting to. We're starting the process. And it's a process—we hope it's not going to be necessary, but it could be necessary. The State is working on it very hard themselves, but we'll probably supplement what they're doing.

China-U.S. Trade/Pharmaceutical Industry

Q. And given that many of the precursors for our pharmaceuticals come from China, and there have been supply disruptions—that supply chain has been broken to some degree—do you expect that we could run into a shortage of prescription drugs?

The President. No, I don't see that at all. And I think China has every incentive to make sure that things work well. China wants to make sure that things work very well. They have every incentive to do so.

Jon [Jonathan Karl, ABC News].

2020 Presidential Primaries and State and Local Elections

Q. Mr. President, the Governor of Ohio has called off the election that was supposed to happen today, the primary election. Do you agree with that decision? And what steps are you taking to ensure that elections going forward—if this pandemic continues—that elections will be able to happen, including, of course, the big one in the fall?

The President. Well, the Governor of Ohio is doing a great job. He called that off, and we'll see what happens. There's a court case, and it hasn't been fully determined yet. But if he called it off, I could understand that because, you know, he's definitely somebody that knows what he's doing.

We'll be seeing what—very soon. You know, they're going by the rule of 10 as opposed to 50, and that's pretty tough. I would say, probably, you could violate that if you wanted to for an election. I just think an election is a very special thing. He's going to chose—he chose a different date. I think a date that sometime in June.

But that would be a decision that would be made by him. He felt it was necessary. The courts are—somebody is challenging it. So the courts will ultimately decide.

Global Coronavirus Outbreak/Domestic Containment Efforts

Q. But what are you doing to ensure that further elections—if we're still in this situation a month from now, 2 months from now——

The President. Yes. What I'm doing——

Q. ——do you suggest to July? What do we do?

The President. What I'm going, John, is very simple. We're getting rid of this virus. That's what we're doing. That's the best thing we can do.

By the way, for the markets, for everything—it's very simple, very simple solution. We want to get rid of it. We want to have very—as few deaths as possible. This is a horrible thing.

You look at what's going on with Italy. We don't want to be in a position like that. But a much larger—because we're a much larger country. We don't want to be there.

And I think we've done really well. I think we've done well. I think the States have done well. We're all working together. The best thing we can do is get rid of the virus. Once that's gone, it's going to pop back like nobody has ever seen before. That's my opinion, but I think it'll pop back like nobody has ever seen before.

Please.

Federal Coronavirus Response/Health Care Infrastructure and Medical Equipment

Q. Mr. President, just to follow up on John's question: Specifically, how many new hospital facilities could the Army Corps of Engineers build? And also, what specific measures are you taking to try to increase the number of ventilators in the stockpiles?

The President. Right. We've ordered massive numbers of ventilators. We have—by any normal standards, we have a lot of respirators, ventilators. We have tremendous amounts of equipment. But compared to what we're talking about here, this has never been done before.

And yesterday I gave the Governors the right to go order directly if they want, if they feel they can do it faster than going through the Federal Government. Now, we've knocked out all of the bureaucracy; it's very direct, but it's still always faster to order directly. And I gave them— that was totally misinterpreted by the New York Times, on purpose, unfortunately.

But the—but it's very important.

Vice President Pence. Mr. President—— Yes, Mike.

Vice President Pence. If I could amplify——

The President. Yes, please.

Vice President Pence. Yes. Thank you. The President directed us to work with the Department of Defense. There's two ways that DOD can be helpful, in terms of expanding medical capacity. I know the Governor of New York has asked us to look at the Army Corps of Engineer, which could perhaps renovate existing buildings. But the President also has us inventorying what you all would understand as field hospitals, or MASH hospitals, that can be deployed very quickly.

We spoke with Governor Inslee yesterday in Washington State. We have resources in that part of the country that we can move. And as Governors make these requests, we will process them, bring them to the President.

But there are two different lanes that DOD can provide, in addition to many medical supplies to augment our national reserves. And the President has tasked us to evaluate, make available, and to consider every request from Governors for either field hospitals, expanding facilities, or the Army Corps of Engineer that could retrofit existing buildings.

The President. The Army Corps is very prepared to do as we say. And we're looking at where it's going. But—and they do call them MASH hospitals, but the field hospitals go up very quickly. They're—we have them. We have all of this equipment in stock. And we're looking at different sites in a few different locations.

And we're not going to need them in West Virginia where, so far, I guess they have none.

Still none? Still none, right? West Virginia.

Q. No known cases.

The President. Big Jim, the Governor, is—he must be doing a good job.

Q. Or is that just reported?

The President. That's what's reported. They——

Q. No, no, but is that a reporting issue or is that that they have no cases?

The President. Well, that's all that—I just see West Virginia is the only one that has no cases. So, obviously, that's being treated differently than a New York or a California—different parts of California.

Q. Mr. President——

Q. Can I follow up?

The President. I do say this, though: the Army Corps of Engineers is ready, willing, and able. We have to give them the go-ahead if we find that it's going to be necessary. We think we can have quite a few units up very rapidly. I'm going to work with Governor Cuomo. I'm going to work with a number of the Governors. Governor Newsom has been very generous in his words, and I'm being generous to him too, because we're all working together very well. And I think a lot of very positive things have taken place. We're talking to California about different sites. But we can have a lot of units up fairly quickly if we think we need them.

Q. Mr. President, a follow-up on medical equipment——

The President. I think what I'll do is, I might ask Seema to say a few words on the telehealth, and then we can back to this.

Please. Seema.

Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services Administrator Seema Verma. Thank you, Mr. President. And as the President announced earlier, we are doing a dramatic expansion of what's known as telehealth for our 62 million Medicare beneficiaries who are amongst the most vulnerable to the coronavirus. And we're acting in accord with the appropriations bill that was signed on March 6, as well as the President's emergency declaration last week.

[Administrator Verma continued her remarks, concluding as follows.]

I also just want to briefly mention that because of the President's emergency declaration, we do have the ability to provide a lot of Medicaid waivers, and Florida was the first State to be approved. We were able to do that in a matter of days.

Thank you.

The President. Any questions? Please.

Telehealth Programs/Federal Coronavirus Response/Health Care Infrastructure

Q. Yes. Where do citizen seniors go for instructions on how to do the telehealth?

Administrator Verma. They should call their doctor's office, and their doctor's office can tell them how to do that. Also, you know, there may be some of our Medicare members that may not have access to equipment, so we're asking family members, but—to help with this, but also respecting the requirements around social distancing. And if any of those family members or neighbors have symptoms, they should obviously stay away.

The President. Will you be posting numbers also?

Administrator Verma. That's correct. Exactly.

The President. That might be the easiest way to do it—if you post in ads, if you post some numbers.

Administrator Verma. And they can also call our 1–800–MEDICARE number, and they can also get information. Those phone lines are open.

The President. Thank you. Thank you very much.

Admiral, if you'd say a few words about where we're going, and then I'd like to ask Dr. Birx to say a couple of words about how the system is working.

Assistant Secretary for Health Brett P. Giroir. Well, thank you very much. As we talked about earlier this week, the commercial system is rapidly advancing in the testing capabilities. As of today, our public health laboratories—meaning the CDC and the public health labs—have reported out 31,878 tests. So almost 32,000 tests.

[Assistant Secretary Giroir continued his remarks, concluding as follows.]

We did a trial site yesterday with a full mobile unit for drive-through, with full PPE. We had a lot of kinks in the system, as you can expect. That's why we do a test before we go out into the field. Don't expect these to be a hundred-percent perfect the moment they come. They're going to be adapted to the State and the local situation, but we're very confident that these will add testing to the already very robust health care system and commercial system.

Thank you, Mr. President.

The President. Thank you very much. Thank you, Admiral.

And this has never been done before. And it sets a great roadmap for future, should we have something like this in the future. I hope we don't. But it's never been done before, and they've done an incredible job.

Again, we're working with the States and relying on the States. We have to because they— they have—it's point of sale, it's point of site. And we're in, I think, just about every instance, getting along really well with the States.

If I could, Dr. Birx, if you could say a couple of words, please.

White House Coronavirus Response Coordinator Deborah L. Birx. Great. Thank you. Thank you, Mr. President. So I think what you've been hearing from us is defined solutions that are high quality and sustainable based on the frontline workers and Governors' requests. And I—those come in on the Governors call. We've been immediately responsive to those. And that's the level of redtape and bureaucracy that we have removed.

[Ambassador Birx continued her remarks, concluding as follows.]

I'm hoping that carries through to next year when we have our flu epidemic, where we can really have a very different profile of the amount of mortality that we have during flu that we never talk about. Anywhere from 15,000 to 45,000 individuals are lost every year. If we learn how to do this well and sustain some of those core changes, we can change the way respiratory viruses—not only for this, but the future—affect Americans.

The President. It's a big thing. Right, Doctor? Maybe a couple of questions. Yes, Jon.

Q. A question on the clinical data. So we've had now roughly 5,000 people test positive. We've had 90 deaths or so. When are we going to know the data of who those people are; who has been infected; what the ages are; what the preexisting conditions are; how serious it was, both for those who have been tested positive, but also those who have died?

Ambassador Birx. Well, you're singing my sheet of music. I'm very data oriented. So thank you for bringing up this issue of data. I really want to applaud HHS. We had a discussion about this several days ago. They've made calls into Seattle and California to really understand that, and also, importantly, to understand how many of their patients needed ventilators, how many of them needed oxygen support, how many of them needed and what they needed. Could we predict, early, someone who was going to have a more difficult course? These are all the questions we're asking right—and answering right now.

[Ambassador Birx continued her remarks, concluding as follows.]

And so we still want every American focused on doing what they can do today to change the course of this pandemic.

Q. Will you commit to making that data public so we will all know?

Ambassador Birx. We're committed not only to making it public, but to have a website that everyone can see in real time.

Q. Dr. Birx——

The President. Please, Doctor. Him.

Federal-State Cooperation on Coronavirus Containment Efforts

Q. Dr. Birx, if I could just follow up. You all are signaling a much more aggressive posture toward containment, mitigation now. And many States have been very aggressive, but there is a small number of States that has not—have not issued public guidance to their residents. Is it important for the success of the effort that 100 percent of the States be forward leaning on this? And, if so, Mr. President, what would be your message to those States that have not?

The President. Okay.

Ambassador Birx. So that's why the Vice President and the President, yesterday, issued those critical guidelines. As I said this morning on "Fox and Friends," you can look at them as guidelines, you can look at them as requirements, and you can look at them as the President asking every American and every State to follow those.

That's why we put them out at the Federal level. We wanted to make sure every American knew what they could do today to change the course of this epidemic. I think it's empowering. I think it says all of us have a social responsibility to each other, and that's why we believe that every mayor and every Governor should be instituting these guidelines that came from the White House and the President of the United States.

The President. And we've been very tough on those States. I know exactly who you're talking about. We've been very tough on them. Thank you.

Please, go ahead.

Coronavirus Testing Availability and Implementation

Q. A follow-up question on the testing. You've been telling us for days now that millions of tests have been sent out. So why have fewer than 60,000 people actually been tested?

Ambassador Birx. I think you will see different numbers this week. You heard just of 8,000. Remember, all of these tests—the high-speed tests were approved last Friday—last Friday night and last Thursday night.

I think if I could talk to Thermo Fisher and the other groups that have these platforms out there: Do not rely on a pull technology. Push out those tests. Because we can only make them available. Groups have to order them. So I—we've been talking to Thermo Fisher, one of the key platforms, to push out tests based on need and not wait for orders.

Q. Is that where the issue is, getting the tests out? Or is it getting the test conducted?

Ambassador Birx. We—that's a great question. I know part of it is getting the test out right now. I think the Admiral and others are working on getting the issues related to getting the test conducted. Obviously, that does take time. He is working on innovative solutions that are creative and sustainable that will be a game-changer in testing. But we don't have the data yet. This is a critical comparator. Can you do it yourself? Can you actually sample yourself?

Q. At home?

Ambassador Birx. These are the kinds of things we're working on right now, and he's getting the data for us.

Vice President Pence. It's coming on line every day.

The President. And the States are actually doing a lot of this. The Governors and the States are doing a lot of it, with even our tests.

Yes, go ahead. Go ahead, please.

Q. Okay, thank you. Can you give us a sense of how long these tough, new restrictions will need to be in place until we start to see the rate of this virus going down?

Also, can you speak to this study that as many as 2.2 million people in the United States could die if there weren't this type of action by the Government taken? To what extent did that prompt what we saw yesterday?

Ambassador Birx. So I think, you know, models are models. And they're based on input, and they're based on infectiousness without any controls. I can tell you we've never seen that level of infections that modeled up to that 2.2 million in mortality.

[Ambassador Birx continued her remarks, concluding as follows.]

If I could just say one other thing to the hospitals and dentists out there: Things that don't need to be done over the next 2 weeks, don't get it done. If you're a person with an electric—elective surgery, you don't want to go into a hospital right now. There's a lot of distraction. There's a lot of people doing a lot of other things to save people's lives. So let's all be responsible and cancel things that we can cancel to really free up hospital beds and space, and then let's do everything that we can to ensure that we don't need the ventilators because we protected the people who would have needed to use them.

Coronavirus Containment Efforts in the U.S.

Q. And are you looking at the possibility of more actions like, for example, limiting travel within the United States? Are you looking——

The President. It's possible. It's possible. We'll see how it goes. I think a lot of—there's been great cooperation with local governments, States. We'll see how it goes. It's going, right now, pretty well.

Yes, please go ahead.

Q. And, Mr. President, can I follow on that, Mr. President. Very quickly.

The President. Please. Yes.

Q. Just very quickly.

The President. Go ahead.

Federal Coronavirus Response/Executive Authorities

Q. Do you need to invoke the Defense Production Act to get more of those medical supplies to different hospitals across the country?

The President. Well, we're able to do that if we have to. Right now we haven't had to, but it's certainly ready. If I want it, we can do it very quickly. We've studied it very closely over two weeks ago, actually. We'll make that decision pretty quickly if we need it. We hope we don't need it. It's a big step.

Q. But as the States say they need more help from the Federal Government when it comes to those supplies, what do you say to those Governors?

The President. Well, when you say the States—in particular, three States need some help.

And some States, you know, have two people, three people, no people, in the case of, again, West Virginia. So we're looking at it very closely. We've taken it apart 15 different ways. It's a very difficult thing to do. It's a very big step. And if we need that step, we'll take it, okay?

Coronavirus Containment Efforts in the U.S./Administration Guidelines on Social Distancing

Q. A quick follow-up to Kristen's [Kristen Welker, NBC News] first question. A lot of people have got travel to places that aren't considered hotspots——

The President. Yes.

Q. ——Caribbean, Mexico, that sort of thing—over the next few weeks. Would you recommend that they follow through with these plans?

The President. I would just say: Enjoy your home. Stay. I would just say, right now, we—we have to get this problem fixed, and then we'll get back into business really quick. We'll open up our country, we'll open up our society. The world will, hopefully, open up.

We see areas of the world that are—that haven't done well, and we see areas that are doing very well. And I would put us in the category of doing very well for a country so big. I think that I would recommend that they just enjoy their living room, John.

Q. Mr. President——

The President. Yes, go ahead. Please.

Administration Guidelines on Social Distancing/Coronavirus Containment Efforts in the U.S.

Q. What do you say to people who are not heeding these guidelines from the White House? And then, also, I have a question on asymptomatic people that Dr. Birx——

The President. Yes, sure. I'm not happy with those people if they're not. But you know, those people are being shouted down by other people. They know it. They're being—it's almost like self-policing. People went in, and there are couple of instances, I guess—probably more than a couple—where people are not happy when they see others doing what they're not supposed to be doing.

We have to get rid of this. We have to win this war and, ideally, quickly. Quickly. Because the longer it takes, it's not a good situation. And I'm not even talking about the economy. I'm talking about the lives of a lot of people.

Yes, please. Did you have one?

National Response to the Coronavirus Pandemic/Private Sector Cooperation

Q. Will the White House put any restrictions on corporate bonuses for companies that do get bailed out, like airlines?

The President. I'm going to ask—I think I'm going to ask Mike. Answer that question, please.

Vice President Pence. I think it's all a work in progress. What President Trump has made clear to industries around the country is that we're going to do whatever it takes. We understand this is an extraordinary moment in the life of our Nation. It's the reason why the President brought in leaders of the financial sector, the airline industry. He'll meet with all additional industry leaders today in tourism and hospitality.

But he has tasked the Secretary of the Treasury to work with Members of Congress in both parties to make sure that we construct the kind of economic support that will allow those industries to weather the period of the coronavirus and then to come back stronger than ever before.

Q. A question for Dr. Fauci——

The President. We've had—we've had such incredible—I don't know, it's almost the word "spirit" is the best word. It's like a spirit.

Vice President Pence. That's true.

The President. The banks have come in, and the banks are doing things that they would have never done. They're working on extensions and lots of things that they wouldn't have done.

Copays, with regard to the insurance companies—I mean, for them to be doing what they're doing—and you know all about the copays—they would have never done that, and they did it.

They were in my office. They—I would say the 11 biggest in this country; I guess, probably, the 11 biggest in the world. The big ones, all the big ones. And they did things on copay that nobody would be doing, that they wouldn't have done in a million years, but they're doing it. There's a great spirit going on right now in the country.

So you want—yes, please.

Q. A question for Dr. Fauci. Dr. Fauci, you've said you like being accused of overreacting because that is an indication we may be doing things necessary to beat this, bend the curve. How long do you think it will take for you to be confident that, yes, we're bending the curve or, no, we're not?

National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases Director Anthony S. Fauci. You know, I can't give you a firm number on that because the dynamics of outbreaks, in some respects, are predictable. Historically, they do this and that. We don't know because this is really unprecedented.

[Director Fauci continued his remarks, concluding as follows.]

I just want to say one other thing, because I heard Dr. Birx say it, and I think we need to say it over and over again: When I was young—a long time ago—I felt that I was invulnerable the way I think many of us feel we're invulnerable. And when we're asking the young people to help us with this mitigation strategy by staying out of the bars, staying out of the restaurants, really trying to distance yourself, don't get the attitude, "Well, I'm young, I'm invulnerable." You are— well, in some respects, you're certainly less vulnerable than I am.

However, what you might inadvertently do—and I know you don't want to do that—you don't want to put your loved ones at risk, particularly the ones who are elderly and the ones who have compromised conditions. We can't do this without the young people cooperating. Please cooperate with us.

Thank you.

Q. Dr. Fauci——

Q. Mr. President——

The President. Go ahead.

Q. Dr. Fauci—and I'm going to use my notes so I get this right, but there's apparently a new study out of China. It found that the vast majority of cases—86 percent—were in untested patients with mild to no symptoms. So what does that say about the impact of testing? And does it mean that testing should actually go beyond the sickest patients?

Director Fauci. You know, that question keeps coming up, and I'm not going to evade the question, but I want to make a point. We tend to think that we're not going to be able to mitigate or contain without testing. They complement each other in some respects, but they're separate channels. Even if we had no testing, we should be doing what we're doing now.

The question you're asking—so I won't evade—is specifically: Would it be important, outside of a doctor, patient coming in together, of knowing what's out there; what might be under the radar screen? The answer to your question is "yes."

So let me tell you what the CDC is doing right now. They're going out there, and part of their program is to get a feel for what is there that wasn't initially thought to be coronavirus, that was thought to be something else. When you do that, you're also going to get a feel of what the penetrance is in society. So we are heading with the high-throughput things that you've been hearing about to get an answer to your question.

Q. Dr. Fauci, if I could. Dr. Fauci, Governor Cuomo said this morning he believes that we'll see a peak in terms of infection in 45 days. Would you concur with that?

Director Fauci. You know, it's possible. I mean, I know the Governor has been really, I believe, doing a really good job of trying to stay ahead of this. Forty-five days is not unreasonable. You have to be careful. When you get a number, you own the number. And then, if the number doesn't come out, you're in trouble.

And that's the reason why, from our standpoint, from the Federal Government, we're talking about a range. So, within that range—I mean, it isn't like you want to be correct for the sake of being correct, but you don't want to be wed to something and then have to back off.

The President. Go ahead, please.

Q. Dr. Fauci, when is the soonest that we'll know that these new guidelines are actually bending the curve or actually working? And is there a point in time where, you know, in the next couple of weeks, where you'll be able to tell the President, more draconian measures are needed?

Director Fauci. Well, okay, so what's happening—I mean, if you look as a metaphor, it's kind of like a race against—the virus, if left to its own devices, will do this.

[Director Fauci indicated a steep curve with a sweep of his hand.] And us trying to somehow blunt that.

[Director Fauci continued his remarks, concluding as follows.]

It may be, at the end of the day, we'll see a curve that would have been way, way up. But I wouldn't, like, put us to task every few days: "Well, wait a minute, it's going up. Is it working or not?" That would be really misleading if we do that.

Q. Dr. Fauci——

Q. I have a question——

The President. Yes. Go ahead. Go ahead.

Q. Regarding the 15-day guidelines which were announced yesterday, one of those guidelines was a recommendation against gatherings of 10 or more people. And today, the Governor of Alabama issued her own guidelines, and it was a recommendation against gatherings of 25 or more people.

Director Fauci. Right.

Q. What is your recommendation for people of Alabama, people across all of the country, as far as the guidelines that were announced yesterday by the Federal Government?

Director Fauci. Okay, so the one thing we don't want to do is to get hung up on the difference between 10 and 25. I think you might agree with that. When we give guidelines, they're only guidelines. We sit down, we look at the data—as Dr. Birx said, we're data-driven— and we say, "On different models, 10 looks good."

If someone wants to do 25, we're not going to fault them, but if someone wants to come to us, ask us what we think is the best is, we stand by the numbers. It isn't perfect. It isn't precise math. It's assumptions, and it's data that make you get your decision.

Q. But would it be more effective if every State and every city in the country was playing by the same rules instead of different?

Director Fauci. Yes. Of course. But this is the United States of America. There's a lot of free enterprise there. People do their own thing. And quite frankly, I don't think there's a big-deal difference between 10 and 25. We've got many, many more important things to worry about than that difference.

Tax Relief/Domestic Production Incentives/Federal Support for Key Economic Sectors

Q. Mr. President, thank you. Going back to supply chains and then talking about preparedness for the future, yesterday, Larry Kudlow said that there is an idea floating around the administration to cut taxes for companies who would be bringing their supply chains back to United States. He said he specifically liked immediate hundred-percent write-offs for——

The President. Right.

Q. ——structures, equipment. But he said you hadn't endorsed that yet. Would you endorse an idea like that?

The President. We're looking at many ideas. That's one of them, frankly. And we're looking at creating incentives for companies, not only that type of company, but other companies.

We're also looking to help companies, such as the airline industry—within the airline industry. And we'll be doing that. We will be doing that. This is not their fault. And they've been very understanding, actually. And we're going to be helping them. We will have a very powerful airline industry, and it will start up as soon as this is over. We'll have those—we'll have those planes ready to go. So we have to help them during the short term with—very important.

Yes, please.

Global Coronavirus Outbreak/Domestic Containment Efforts

Q. Thank you, Mr. President. I wanted to know, have you taken a look at some of these models, such as the Imperial College London model, that kind of poses a very difficult choice, whether it's shutting down society or overwhelming the health care system?

The President. Right.

Q. Is that something that you took into consideration?

The President. We look at every model. We've relied on the very talented people. And there's no better team than the people behind me. And I will say that all of the people that have done those models are all in constant touch with Dr. Birx and Tony and everybody that you've been hearing so much from over the last couple of weeks.

We've looked at many different models. And the model we have is, we want to save a lot of lives. We want to save a lot of lives. If we get too steep on that curve, you're going to lose a lot of lives, perhaps unnecessarily.

Now, we're going to find out. Everything has a risk. We're going to see. But if people do what we're telling them to do, what we're asking them to do, you're going to see the saving of a lot of lives.

Now, Boris, in U.K. yesterday—you saw what happened—it looked like they were going a different way, but then he went a way of similar—I guess similar—I don't know exactly. But I would say we had a conversation yesterday, similar to what we're doing.

So a lot of people seem to think this is going to be—we are looking to save the maximum number of lives. Everything else is going to come back. A life is never going to come back. But everything else—our economy is going to come roaring back.

You're going to know, we're going to know—we're going all know that day. Somebody was asking about the day: "When will you know? When will you know?" We're going to know. All of a sudden, we're going to say: "Wow, that's looking good. That's looking good. That's looking good." And we're going to be on the other side of the curve. And that's a day that we look forward to. Okay?

Coronavirus Containment Efforts in the U.S./Coronavirus Outbreak in China

Q. Is there something, sir, that you saw this week, though, that did—that made you decide that, yes, now is the time to implement these much more stringent social distancing measures? This week, sir.

The President. No, I don't think so. This is where we were going. I really think, from the beginning, this is where we were going. This is what we had in mind. We were just—we're just going step by step. That was the next step—the next logical step.

As Dr. Fauci said—and I think very importantly—one of the most important things, when you write the history of this, was the fact that we closed it down to China and Europe, but in particular, China. We closed it down to China, the source, very, very early. Very, very early. Far earlier than even the great professionals wanted to do. And I think, in the end, that's going to be save—that will have saved a tremendous number of lives.

Global Coronavirus Outbreak/The President's Sense of Urgency

Q. A quick follow-up: One on the economy and the other on the broader picture here. But just to follow up on my colleague: Some people did note that your tone seemed more somber yesterday. You talked about that August timeline. Did you see a projection? Some people thought perhaps that 2 million, potentially, that could die maybe prompted part of that. Was there a shift in tone?

The President. I didn't think—I mean, I have seen that, where people actually liked it. But I didn't feel different. I've always known this is a real—this is a pandemic. I've felt it was a pandemic long before it was called a pandemic. All you had to do is look at other countries. I think now it's in almost 120 countries all over the world.

No, I've always viewed it as very serious. There was no difference yesterday from days before. I feel the tone is similar, but some people said it wasn't.

Economic Impact of the Coronavirus/Domestic Containment Efforts/News Media/Bipartisanship

Q. Can I ask one on the economy? Your former Economic Adviser said almost a hundred- percent chance of a recession. Do you see it that way?

The President. It could be. I mean, I don't think in terms of recession. I think in terms of getting it out, because when we're finished with the virus, we will win. We will win.

And when that victory takes place, our economy is going to go through the roof. It is so pent up. It is so built up. It is so ready to go in an upward direction. But we have to knock out this enemy. This is a really tough enemy, but we have to knock out—all of us. That's all of us.

So I don't think in terms of recession. Not recession. It's words. We have to knock out this, and we will have an economy—I actually think we'll have an economy like we've never had before. It's all pent up.

Did you have something to say, Mike? Please.

Vice President Pence. Well, I think the question about the actions that the President has authorized, beginning in January, when he took the unprecedented step of suspending all travel from China; and the efforts to issue travel advisories for portions of Italy and South Korea and then to begin screening all the passengers; and the efforts regarding suspending travel for Europe; and what went into effect at midnight last night, adding the U.K. and Ireland to that—have all been informed by the experts that are surrounding us.

[Vice President Pence continued his remarks, concluding as follows.]

But we'll continue to bring the best data, the best evidence, and the best recommendations, frankly, of the best health experts in the world. And the President will continue to make decisions that put the health of America first.

The President. In other words, reduce the number of people that die. That's what we're trying to do. And when you do the steep curve, a lot of people are going to die. A lot of people.

You know, the worst ever, they say, in 1918. And I don't have to go into the numbers, but they were unbelievable numbers. Had they known and had they done what we had now, it would have been a very much different story. It would still be tragic, but it would have been a very much different. But that was—that was the one that people write about. That was an incredible— that was an incredible pandemic like we haven't seen.

But we have done something that I hope—hopefully, we will all have made the right moves.

We're all in this together, including you, and we want to see fair press. And I tell you what: It's been—generally speaking, I think it's been a great thing to see.

It's been very, very—the—getting along with Democrats, getting along with Republicans, for the Democrats themselves—there's been a lot of spirit. There's been a lot of things happening that I haven't seen happen in the first almost now 3½ years. It's been very nice to see. That's one of the good things.

But, really, the good thing is, we have to knock it out. We have to win. And we want to keep that slope as low as possible because that's a lot of lives in there.

Let's go back there. Somebody that didn't get one. Please, go ahead.

China-U.S. Trade

Q. Mr. President, this has had a huge impact on China's economy as well. Have you received any indication from officials there that they're going to have trouble meeting the purchase agreements—part of the phase one deal—particularly the agricultural buy?

The President. Yes. Well, they need our product very badly and—no, I haven't received any.

We have a good relationship with China. I have not received anything to that. No, we have a signed agreement. They're going to be buying, and they have been buying a lot of product.

Yes, please.

Federal Coronavirus Response/Health Care Infrastructure/Prevalence of the Coronavirus in the U.S.

Q. Earlier today Dr. Birx was talking about the possibility of our hospital system being overburdened, overtaxed, and she talked about certain options that are available to the United States if that happens, including VA hospitals——

The President. Right.

Q. ——Department of Defense medical treatment facilities, and even hospital ships. At what point do you tap into those options?

The President. Well, I'll know the point. And by speaking with Governor Cuomo and other Governors, we're going to know the point. It's going to be different for New York than it's going to be for, you know, Iowa or from Idaho or from West Virginia, frankly, or for—you know, it's different. New York has got a big problem. The State of Washington has a big problem.

California has some big problems.

Everyone is doing a good job. But we're going to know when it will be, and I believe it'll be more spot than it will be—it's not going to be the whole thing; it's going to be spots. There are some hotspots that are in trouble—big trouble. And there are other areas that are in no trouble at all. They watch it on television. They don't know—you know, it's just not affecting them and that's—they're lucky. They're lucky. But there are areas of the country that don't have much of a problem, and some that don't have any problem. They're not going to have a problem with hospitals.

But some areas—like New York, California, State of Washington—they're going to have some difficulty. And when we see that coming, we're going to be in there. We're already making preparation for it.

Pharmaceutical Industry Supply Chains

Q. Senator Marco Rubio of Florida and your Trade Adviser Peter Navarro have been recommending an Executive order that would ensure that the raw materials for pharmaceuticals and medical devices are manufactured here in the United States. We were getting some indications last week that you were close to signing this Executive order. Can you tell us where you are on that?

The President. Well, we're looking at different things, John. I don't want to say exactly. Right now China has been sending us everything we need. But we are—we're looking at some alternatives. Yes, we are looking for alternatives.

Q. Should we expect——

The President. And we have other places. Ireland does a lot of work for us—you know that—in that world, in the pharma world. A very tremendous producer. And we are looking to bring a lot more back home.

And I've been—excuse me, you know me for a long time; I've been talking about this for many years. Long before I decided to run for President, I've been talking about this. And we have to be able to take care of our country. And that was one of the many things on the list. So we'll be talking about it.

But we are discussing it, and Marco is very much involved, and Peter is very much involved.

A lot of people are involved, and a lot of people feel that way. But we'll be discussing.

Let's go. Please.

Canada's Border and Immigration Policies/Cross-Border Trade

Q. Thank you, sir. You said—Canada has closed its borders to noncitizens. Are you considering——

The President. Not to the United States.

Q. Not to the United States, of course. Are you considering closing the land borders in the United States? And also, you've discussed——

The President. Well, Canada has not closed it to the United States.

Q. Right.

The President. So we're working very closely with Canada and—but they have not closed it.

They have closed it to the world, but they have not closed it to the United States.

Q. Are you considering closing the U.S. land borders?

The President. I don't want to say that, but we are discussing things with Canada, and we're discussing things with Mexico, quite honestly. And, again, the relationship is outstanding with both. Outstanding. We just signed our deal—USMCA—and the relationship is very strong.

Q. Bipartisanship——

The President. Go ahead, please.

Coronavirus Outbreak in China

Q. China and other have others have criticized you for using the phrase "Chinese virus." How do you feel about that? Are you going to continue using that phrase?

The President. Well, China was putting out information, which was false, that our military gave this to them. That was false. And rather than having an argument, I said I have to call it where it came from; it did come from China. So I think it's a very accurate term. But no, I didn't appreciate the fact that China was saying that our military gave it to them. Our military did not give it to anybody.

Q. But the critics say using that phrase creates a stigma.

The President. No, I don't think so. No, I think saying that our military gave it to them creates a stigma.

Q. Mr. President, on Pelosi——

Q. Mr. President, when you speak to——

The President. Please.

Global Coronavirus Outbreak/Impact on Tourism Industry/Restrictions on Foreign Travel to the U.S.

Q. When you speak to travel and tourism executives today, what specific help are you going to offer to them, if at all? Or is it still vague?

The President. Well, we're going to help. They need help. Look, let's face it. You know, they go from having record-breaking years—this is the third year of record-breaking years—travel and tourism, airlines, everything. They were doing record numbers, ordering new planes, building new hotels. Everything was really hunky-dory.

And then, one day, we hear about this rumor in China. And then, we find out it's much more than a rumor. And then, all of a sudden, we make a great decision to close it up early. It would be a whole different world. It would be a whole different world. But we make a decision to close it up to China, and all of a sudden, tourism and—and then we close it up to Europe, which, you know, people never heard of this before. I'm not sure that that's ever been done. I know that when I made the decision to close it to China, people told me that's never been done before, but it was a great decision.

We make good decisions. So I'll tell you my best decision: The people behind me are total pros. All over the world, they're respected—Dr. Birx; Anthony, who has become a—where is Anthony?—he's become a major television star for—for all the right reasons. No, he's just so professional. So good.

The people that we have working here have been incredible. And they're totally respected. The Admiral has been incredible, having to do with the testing. Incredible. And he's viewing this as testing also for the future. We're building a platform.

When we took over this platform, the first thing the Admiral said was, "This was not designed for what we're talking about, millions of people." It wasn't. And it's nobody's fault. It's not like—who could have ever predicted a thing like this? But we broke it down, and it's really going to be an incredible system. And it is now a great system.

I just want to say, these are people standing behind me. They're the most respected in the world. Every country that you've mentioned today so far has called them, and they call them all of the time for advice. There is nobody better than what we have.

Q. Mr. President, why haven't we seen Dr. Redfield in the last couple of days?

The President. Say it?

Q. Why haven't we seen Dr. Redfield in the last couple of days?

Vice President Pence. He's come up twice already.

The President. I don't know. I can't imagine——

Secretary of Health and Human Services Alex M. Azar II. He's in Atlanta, running the CDC.

The President. I can tell you he's doing a good job. We're very happy with him.

Q. Mr. President, quick follow-up, quick follow-up——

The President. Please. You haven't. Go ahead.

Tax Relief/Economic Impact of the Coronavirus/Economic Stimulus Measures

Q. Mr. President, yesterday we were being told that the payroll tax was going to comprise the lion's share of fiscal stimulus.

The President. Right.

Q. We also had the markets fall quite dramatically yesterday and—were you—did that inform your——

The President. It wasn't about the payroll tax.

Q. Did that inform your decision? What made you make that change? And when did you make that change?

The President. Well, I didn't make a change. We're looking at payroll tax. And we're looking at various other forms of getting money to people. And the payroll tax is something that I've always liked. The problem is it does take a period of time—you know, months—before they really see something. And we don't really have months, in terms of people living. You know, a lot of these—you have people that work on tips. You have people in our—it's a large number of people. It's a tremendous—who would think this, right? And they do nicely. They work very hard, but they work on tips.

We have to take care of our people. We don't want to have people suffering during this period. It wasn't their fault that this thing, all of a sudden, was upon us. So we're looking at various—we're also looking at payroll tax. You know, it's possible. It's also possible we'll do a percentage of payroll tax and then other things. But we'd like to be able to get money to people.

You know, we're very lucky, our country is doing so well, we can do this and we can do it easily. But we have to do it. And I have to say, Mitch McConnell—if you look at Mitch and Kevin and the whole group, it's been—it's been incredible how they're reacting, how Congress is reacting, how—whether it's the House or Senate, how they're moving. And I'm talking about Democrats and Republicans.

But we've had tremendous leadership meetings, and they want to see it done right, and they do want to go big. I think going big is important. I don't think we want to go up there every day with a different idea, a different concept. "Oh, gee, let's worry about the airlines. Let's do this one." You have a big problem with the cruise ship industry. It's an industry that was setting all sorts of records 2 months ago. And then, all of a sudden, there is nobody on the ships. Okay?

So we have to help these. These are great industries. These are going to be taking care of people and passengers and—and for years to come. And paying tremendous taxes—tremendous taxes—for years to come. So we have to make sure this is done.

Yes, Jon.

The President's Political Style/News Media

Q. Mr. President, I want to bring up what you referred to just a short while ago about politics. In your address to the Nation, you said we have to put politics aside, stop the partisanship, and unify together. But this morning you criticized the Democratic Governor of Michigan. Yesterday it was the Democratic Governor of New York. You've attacked Obama. You've talked—you attacked Biden. In fact, every day except one since that address, you've lashed out at a Democratic leader. Are you going to set the example on this?

The President. I only do that when I have to respond. I watched her on television. She said something that was false and therefore I did do that. And I will continue to do that if they're not going to play fair. Because, you know, they have the media on their side; I don't. I just have me.

And if they're not going to play fair, I'm going to do that. If they are going to play fair, there's going to be nobody——

Q. Obama never criticized you, sir. [Inaudible]

The President. There's going to be nobody better than Donald Trump, in terms of bipartisanship. But if they're going to say things that are false, like the story that was written yesterday. A lot of people—I don't know—somebody—I think I know who—but they taped the conference call that I had with the Governors. It was a good call. It was fine. I assumed somebody is going to tape it. They handed it to various people, and one of them was the New York Times, and the New York Times chose to write totally inaccurately about it. It was a disgraceful thing. It was bad journalism, but you know, they do a lot of bad journalism. But we respond to that, and actually, people get it. People get it.

No, I want it to be bipartisan, and nobody's going to be better than me. But when they attack me or the people—these incredible people behind me—I'm not going to let them get away with that. I can't do that.

Okay, how about one or two more questions? Go ahead, please. Please.

Coronavirus Containment Efforts in the U.S.

Q. [Inaudible]—to follow up on the 15-day guidelines, what's the next natural step? So is the next natural step after that a national lockdown, similar to what San Francisco is doing?

The President. Well, you can do a national lockdown. Hopefully, we are not going to need that. We think of everything. I mean, we have—every idea that you mentioned, we've thought of. And you know, that's a very big step. That's a step that, I mean, in one sense would work. It's a very big step. It's something we talk about, but we haven't decided to do that.

Please, go ahead.

Coronavirus Containment Efforts in the U.S.

Q. Mr. President, what would be the determining factors for you to take that action?

The President. It would have to get to a level—I just don't think it's going to be an action that we're going to take. I don't think I'll talk—but Anthony, all of the people standing behind would get together in a room, plus some additionals, and we would make a decision. But I don't think that's a step that we're going to be taking.

But one more question. You didn't have one, did you? Come on.

Economic Stimulus Measures/Federal Support for Key Economic Sectors

Q. Will the U.S. government provide financial assistance to Boeing and airplane suppliers like GE?

The President. We're looking at that. We're certainly looking at Boeing. Boeing got hit hard in many different ways. Boeing never had a problem. For—for years, they were—they were an incredible—and they were—it was unthinkable what happened, with respect to Boeing.

Unthinkable. Probably, I would consider it the greatest company in the world prior to a year ago. Now they get hit in 15 different ways and they have different management. I've met the new people running Boeing. I think it's going to be outstanding.

But yes, we have to protect Boeing. We have to absolutely help—help Boeing. They were doing a job. They were getting—it was coming along well. And then, all of a sudden, this hits. So, obviously, when the airlines aren't doing well, Boeing is not going to be doing well. So we'll be helping Boeing, yes.

Coronavirus Testing Accessibility/Federal Response to the Coronavirus Outbreak/News Media

Q. Could you just respond to something, Mr. President, before you leave, on what Jon was saying? You've called for people to leave politics out of this. Joe Biden said: "The World Health Organization offered testing kits that they had available to the United States and to give it to us now. We refused it. We didn't want to buy them." PolitiFact says the WHO never made that offer. Can you tell us what actually happened?

The President. Well, that's what I heard. And I'm going to let—I'm going to let Tony answer that question. Or some—whoever is best at answering that. But I do have to say, when you talk about politics—I watched the debate. Not too exciting. But what they said about me—and we've done a great job. When you talk about not being bipartisan—what they said about me.

And if you look at swine flu—the whole thing in, I guess it was 2009, and what they did and the mistakes they've made, they were terrible. They were horrific mistakes. Seventeen thousand people died. And I'll be honest, they shouldn't be criticizing, because we've done a fantastic job.

The only thing we haven't done well is to get good press. We've done a fantastic job, but it hasn't been appreciated. Even the—the closing down of the borders, which had never been done—and not only did we close them, but we closed them early—the press doesn't like writing about it.

So we've done a poor job on press relationships, and you know, I guess, I don't know who to blame for that. I don't know, maybe I can blame—maybe I can blame ourselves for that. I will blame ourselves. But I think we've done a great job. I think we've done a poor job, in terms of press relationship.

But let me have somebody answer your question.

Q. Okay.

Vice President Pence. I think—WHO or——

Ambassador Birx. I can. I can. Yes, so I tried to cover this in the answer when I talked about quality of kits. And our quality analysis runs through the FDA. So all of these platforms, we have asked people to submit. And we've asked States to quality control. So, I mean, the—anybody could submit their test to us. We don't buy tests that haven't been quality controlled and they show us the data. Either show us the data up front or show us the data after they've been running them.

Because quality testing for our American people is paramount to us. It doesn't help to put out a test where 50 percent or 47 percent are false positives. Imagine what that would mean to the American people. Imagine their level of concern now and telling people that they're false positive.

We take the same approach to HIV. Imagine telling someone they were positive to HIV and they weren't. So that is our bottom line: the customer, the American people first. And so any of these groups can submit their testing kits through our regulatory processes, but without that and without a plan, we are not going to accept tests that have not been studied by us.

The President. Good answer. That's a good answer. Would you have something on that?

Assistant Secretary Giroir. I'm just going to emphasize a little bit more on that. When I became involved in the testing world, I called as senior officials at the WHO as I could find to understand what the situation was. And as far as I can tell from sources that should know, no one ever offered a test that we refused.

The President. That's what I heard too. Assistant Secretary Giroir. This was a——

Secretary Azar. Never happened.

Assistant Secretary. This is a research-grade test, right? Research-grade test that was never submitted——

Secretary Azar. It was not approved.

Assistant Secretary Giroir. Not approved, not submitted to the FDA, that was supplied in tens of thousands of quantities to a hundred countries in the world, okay?

So I think there's a lot that people are saying about this that's just based on rumor and myth.

Nothing was offered that we refused. It was a research test that was not approved. And again, there was a small number that we have greatly surpassed in a very short period of time.

The President. So, number one, nothing was offered. Number two, it was a bad test.

Otherwise, it was wonderful.

Listen, thank you very much.

Q. So Joe Biden was incorrect?

The President. No, he made a mistake. I assume that he'll apologize. He made a mistake. Thank you all very much. Thank you. We'll be back. Thank you.

Q. Mr. President, how do you assure Americans who don't trust——

Vice President Pence. Thank you all.